Opiate Withdrawal: Methadone Symptoms & Side Effects

Question: What is suboxone like for opiate withdrawal?

(Posted by: Ot3p on 2010-04-22 17:42:59)

I might be going on suboxone for oxycodone withdrawal. Can somebody tell me what suboxone is like and their experience with it. Thank you :)

Posted by: ttpawpaw on 2010-04-23, 08:55:06

I personally don't know. I would think that you are under medical supervision for the withdrawal. If you aren't than I would call you really stupid. Suboxone (Buprenorphine HCl ) is a synthetic opioid and in itself has the possibility of getting hooked. It also has partial agonist action which means it fights opioid dependency. There is nothing that makes withdrawal like a walk in the park. Everyone will show some signs of comminf off, but everyone is different. The reason for the medical supervision is carefully monitor any reactions and help you through the process without making it worse. Another way to look at it is "A week of withdrawal is better that a life of dependance ".pp

Posted by: Lone on 2010-04-22, 20:55:09

Suboxone withdrawl is 100 times worse than oxy withdrawl. If you go on sub maintenance, thast what you will face. If you intend to only use the sub for like a week at most, then it's great.

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Posted by: badpilot on 2010-04-23, 14:08:16

Firstly, "ttpawpaw " does not know what they are talking about...a "partial opitate agonist " does not mean that it fights opioid dependency...buprenorphine is part antagonist, which limits the euphoric and analgesic effects but this drug is just as addictive as any other. Unlike other opiates, buprenorphine does not cause user tolerance requiring more for the same effect--because of this one can reduce the amount over time and taper off with fewer problems, but no matter what dose you quit, you will have WD's. Workouts in the gym is the single best, non-prescription defense against WD symptoms.

Posted by: Numbsoul1 on 2010-04-25, 10:07:28

Suboxone, although expensive, is very effective at treating and managing opiate withdrawal.I was addicted to pain medication (oxycodone) and it worked wonders. There are a couple of downsides to it though. First off, it is very expensive. Also, you MUST be completely clean from any opiate for a minimum of three days before taking your first dose or it WILL precipitate withdrawals. So you will have to deal with the three days of withdrawal before ever starting the medication. By then, a lot of people find it better just to go ahead and stay clean for the extra few days after that and not need the Suboxone period, as the withdrawals will have already passed. Also, many people experience severe nausea after their first dose. I did and required medication to stop being sick to my stomach (Phenagren). It can also make you either very tired or restless. Everyone's bodies are different, so it's hard to say how YOU will react to it. But overall, it did work wonders for my personal opiate/ oxycodone addiction and did help alleviate the pain that I began taking the oxycodone for in the first place. And I did not personally find it difficult to wean myself down and eventually off of the Suboxone. The idea when beginning to take it is to set your mind at beating your addiction and the medication only being a short term step to make the process easier, not switching from one substance to another.

Posted by: DeutscheMann7 on 2010-04-25, 20:16:41

There is good news and bad news. The good news is that it is pretty easy to get started. The bad news is that it is so hard to get off. However; some people never get off of it. You will naturally reduce in dosage, so the major side effects will really be gone. The main reason people do not like the be "stuck on it " is because they want complete chemical free Independence. Getting established is easy if you follow this advice: 1. If your doctor doesn't check that well, you need to check to make sure you ARE in withdrawals. It doesn't have to be FULL, but moderate. Let's break that down. You should see your pupils at normal or beginning to dilate. You should have a few beads of sweat, and you should feel like your insides are growling. If you do not wait until this point here is a warning. Ignore all those who say you can take other opiates and then suboxone. If you go off and start using and try to come back without waiting again for W/ D symptoms, you will suffer precipitated W/ D. This is because the Suboxone is chemically superior in affinity to full agonist opioids/ opiates. It will replace these in your collection of receptors. When it does, it will feel like W/ D's but X10 that is very very bad news for you because there is nothing anyone can do for you for 24+ hours. 2. DO NOT OVERDOSE THE NIGHT BEFORE. Many people are afraid of waiting for W/ D's and/ or try to use up supply the night before. This will not only put you in risk of death, it will delay your start time. Try to go to bed and be asleep towards the end of your last dose so you can sleep through as much of it as possible. Then hopefully you will only have to wait a couple hours like this. Once you have the meds and begin, within 15-20 minutes you should feel MUCH MUCH better. 3. If you have to wait a few hours in W/ D state, a heating pad, hot shower, benzo's and Meclizine can go a long way in helping you get through that time. Even better, rent or watch your favorite movie. This will pass a couple hours easily. Especially if it is action packed as this will start your brain making endorphins again...because in W/ D your body is not producing one drop of them naturally or on it's own. 4. Try to plan this so that you do not have to work for 2-3 days. i.e. a Friday afternoon. Even though your cravings will be gone, the detox from the previous opioid/ opiate will take a few days to run their difference w/ d. This means you may be "running " to the restroom off and on...if you get my drift. The w/ d's on Suboxone starting are mild and more of a nuisance than pain. So there it is. If you don't do suboxone, do something to stop. If you have never gone through the psych portion of addiction, then you have less than a 5% chance of success. You can do outpatient programs such as CBT, or at least NA. I can't stress how important this is. It may seem simple, that you have reached a point and want to get off, but since you won't understand the reason for HOW and WHY you got to that point, you will be bound to repeat it. Each time you do it will get worse. And I do mean much worse. I wish you good luck and congrats for taking the first step to recovering life!